Matthew Demoy

Where do you see yourself in five years?

“Where do you see yourself in five years?”

It is a question I have been receiving quite a bit lately. I know people are sincerely asking but I don’t believe they want a sincere answer. What is expected is a well understood response regarding career goals, family planning, or possibly a pivot.

What I find hard to articulate is that these responses describe things, not a life. When one sees oneself how are they viewing themselves in just a singular dimension or checkmark. I understand some logical reasoning behind this. Life has trade-offs and the conditions of economics, health, etc do not permit everyone to overcome the trade-offs.

However why not have an answer to the five year plan topic with something more synergistic and singular to ones life?

Why I am exploring this concept lately is I have spent enough time watching the typical options play out to know what I am not looking for. What I am now formulating is a direction that I view as the alternative to these options.


The available answers

Before I riff on different goals it is worth re-iterating up front if you have not already invested some time and energy in achieving some skills, some credibility, some economic foundation to work from — these are probably good first steps.

The most socially legible answer is what I’d call the Nice Path. Career progression, household formation, retirement planning. It’s not a bad life. It’s stable, and the people around you will largely support it. The gripe with it is also well understood where you spend your most energetic years climbing something you’re ambivalent about and buying things with that security that don’t deliver happiness.

The aesthetic alternative — call it the Bachelor or It Girl path — looks like winning from the outside. Physical shape, interesting hobbies, a well-designed apartment, a curated social life. It’s genuinely more work than the Nice Path and it produces a more interesting life on a surface level. But it doesn’t change the underlying structure of anything. It’s a checklist of nice things rather than a different way of living.

Then there’s Economic Freedom, often called FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early). The logic is appealing: balance income against expenses aggressively enough and you buy back your time. The problem isn’t the math, it’s the question of what you’ve actually built when you get to the end goal. Freedom from something isn’t the same as freedom toward something. And the frugality required to reach it tends to constrain the life you’re supposedly liberating.

What all three have in common is that going down one shuts down something else:

  • The Nice Path drains your time and kills autonomy
  • FIRE drains your ambition
  • The Bachelor path prevents meaning and maturity

The gap

When I look at people who’ve fully succeeded in any of these paths — not as abstractions but as actual humans, their actual rooms, their actual weeks — I find myself unmoved in a way I can’t fully explain through the content alone. The FAANG career person has done genuinely difficult work but the life surrounding it is oddly flat. For many in this position they likely don’t have an aesthetic sensibility, but this does not help those that do feel this way. The FIRE person has reclaimed their time but traded away any forward motion. The bachelor has optimized his immediate environment but is essentially running in place, waiting for the next whack-a-mole checkbox the algorithm pops up. The next aesthetic meta.

What’s missing isn’t any single ingredient. It’s synergy. The sense that the economic side of your life, the social side, the things you do for their own sake are pulling in roughly the same direction rather than constantly trading off against each other. That when you invest in one area it tends to compound into the others rather than cannibalize them.

This is harder to find modeled anywhere, which I think is partly structural. The people living this way have no particular incentive to build a platform around it. They’re not trying to sell you a course. You find them occasionally — accomplished technical people who’ve moved into consulting or advisory work, operators who move in and out of executive roles but frequently sit on boards, people who built something online and quietly own their time, certain lawyers and investors and surgeons whose work gives them both economic weight and genuine engagement. They exist, but undoubtedly they don’t optimize for visibility.


The claim

So when someone asks me where I see myself in five years, what I actually want to say is something like: in a position where the different parts of my life are compounding rather than competing.

Multiple income streams that draw on overlapping skills. A set of connections that are both economically useful and genuinely enriching. Work that has enough variety and agency that it doesn’t produce the particular exhaustion of the five day office grind — not that I suffer from this currently, but as a baseline to maintain. And underneath all of it, enough optionality that the next bet is always available when the right one appears.

This isn’t a retirement plan. It’s not a lifestyle brand. It’s not a rejection of ambition. If anything it requires more sustained effort than any of the named paths because there is no preset track to follow and fewer people to compare notes with.

The reason I think it’s achievable, and not just aspirational, is that this kind of life is genuinely non-fungible — and that makes the market for it inefficient. While the principles are the same, what this actually looks like for an individual is particular and unique. No company can capture this fully. Most people either don’t know this configuration exists or assume it’s reserved for the already-exceptional. The online advice ecosystem does not surface it because it does not package well nor has shortcuts. However the inputs to achieving this life positioning are real. There are people living it privately and there are some paths towards it — a mix of building the right skills, income streams, and connections that reinforce each other.